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it was basically a cube with inside of

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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo

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podcast it's a breakdown we're recording

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this on the 12th of march 2022.

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joining me as always is dan

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hi

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you always give me such nice intros and

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uh and yeah

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i think i think maybe we can just skip

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those now i was going to say welcome to

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the podcast but yeah that's that's my

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guest that's what guest um so

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lots of little bits to cover within this

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one um we were going to record this the

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other day but there's been lots going on

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and i'm busy you're busy um and we've

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managed to get to it today on a lovely

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saturday evening here in the uk um and

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you know what for the first time i don't

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know why i've not done this before i

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asked some of the listeners on on

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twitter and various platforms that's a

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lie i said i'd just use twitter i should

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have used others um

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check me checking myself

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is there anything they wanted us to

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cover and a couple of people quite

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quickly got back with a load of things

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sobel we'll tear through those later on

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but there's a few bits and news that are

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definitely worth covering so if there is

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stuff you want us to cover folks within

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the breakdowns we do try and keep them

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weekly when there's stuff to talk about

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because otherwise when there's not a lot

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to talk about

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people make stuff up um so what we'll

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is it's very true yep that's one of the

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things we need to cover later on in a

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way um new james fox documentary dan has

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very exciting update from james fox the

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documentary on the virginia case in

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brazil is going to be called moment of

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contact and from james fox's socials if

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you're not on the social medias

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you won't have seen this he said we have

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worked tireless

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months to produce a documentary in

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record time on the famous or infamous

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1996 virginia ufo incident i'm proud to

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say that we are just days away from

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having a powerful and compelling rough

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cut it's called moment of contact and

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will be released late this year thanks

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to all of you for your continued support

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hashtag

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ufo um it's also been picked up by as

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1091 pictures for distribution no dates

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yet on release but like james said it'll

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be later this year once it's finished up

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and uh he's going to be on the pod to

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talk about that when the time is right

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i've been in contact with james and as

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soon as he feels he wants to come on and

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have any kind of conversations but i i

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get james as a father you know i always

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appreciate if their parents that come on

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the show and stuff um and he spent a lot

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of time away from his young son when he

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was away filming the documentary and he

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is tearing through the work if you keep

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up to date with these socials to get

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this thing ready as quickly as he is so

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very much looking forward to that and

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when james was on with myself dan he

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mentioned people shouldn't expect this

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to be the phenomenon to that is going to

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be its own piece the phenomenon too will

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particular case and really dissecting it

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watch very well made of course as

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anything james does is yeah absolutely

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between beings and people um so it after

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after james played so loosely with that

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the best kind of footage in any movie of

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of alien contact or like what should be

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children's birthday party that's right

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children's birthday party in brazil and

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shakes as it shows you like a being just

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passed by the alleyway and that's the

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tasteful with his recreations you know

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that he always takes that human angle

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because it really is important what it

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james or anyone on this pod because

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where a recent apple review which was

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one star um called us propaganda and i

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said that did antares again

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i sent the screenshot i was like yep

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we're now propaganda um so yeah from the

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shed i am yeah i'm creating a propaganda

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piece um but yeah so if you are on apple

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five-star review to counteract that

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horrible horrible one-star review but

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problem they're probably remembering

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embracing the idea and talking about it

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his eight news now website uh where he

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all about the history of what we know as

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area 51. um apparently this this new

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area 51 goes by as people may or may not

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these things coming out is something to

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lore or ufology you know ufo history

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anyway myself but what did you think of

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use a foyer to get information now with

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foia you need to be very specific in

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of information so it speaks to that uh

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spirits lights you know all these other

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be stashed somewhere and with you know a

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phenomenon that none of us has ever

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any interest in the history of the the

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hear area 51 and you think straight away

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uh usually alien bodies crashed craft

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independence day when they go out there

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to the desert and they've got the the

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working crafts and is it under the

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ground there's our stuff in the

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but this looks like to be a really well

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that um building at that designated

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were using as well so it looks like a

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really interesting book so i'm i'm

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probably going to pick that one up

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myself and have a flick through it so

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one dan you're up next with a us

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legislation update yeah there's been a

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little bit of movement so what's known

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as the um appropriations act has kind of

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started coming through the house um and

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has now been sent to biden so we're just

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waiting on him to sign it but there are

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two specific uap related things in here

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um as reported by dedean johnson at

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ddjohnson on twitter i believe um go

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that are being added to the uap language

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that we saw passed over christmas so the

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language basically reads or the

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pertinent language reads the direct

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director of national intelligence and

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the secretary of defense shall jointly

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require that each element of the

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intelligence community and component of

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the department of defense with data

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relating to an identified aerial

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phenomena make such data available

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immediately and this is the new bit

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immediately to the ua ptf or the success

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or entity and to the national air and

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space intelligence center that's nasa

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knasic is air force um and they're based

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out of right patterson which people

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familiar with ufo law will know that's

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where crashes and you know all these

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recoveries meant to be taken to to study

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um so we could see a number of things

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come up this basically the air force

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might be stepping into the conversation

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it opens the door to defense contractors

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to get involved now in the uap work

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through nasik um

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and

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in the legislation passed over christmas

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there was a requirement in there that it

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wouldn't just be that the uaptf observe

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the uap phenomena and investigate it

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it's that they're trying to exploit what

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they're witnessing so nasic would play a

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key part in exploiting that technology

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so it's really great that they're

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involved the other part is that

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these um the committees that are asking

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for all of this they actually want

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reports every 90 days from it passing

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whereas the

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the previous legislation went through we

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had kind of biannual reports you know

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two-year um now we're looking at every

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90 days so once this passes you can

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start counting down your 90 days and

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then you know that your officials are

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receiving classified 90-day reports from

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the ua ptf like i say it's classified so

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we might not hear about that unless they

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speak about it

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i'm going to play devil's advocate again

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on this and i've done this before on

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this subject but is it not fair to say

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that in a period of war which we're now

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in unfortunately where the us where it's

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not directly involved in the war almost

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every country is indirectly involved in

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at least some way with what's going on

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in ukraine and russia

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uaps are as much as anything it can be

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tied into the drones and other craft

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that may operate which the us doesn't

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know too much about would it not make

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sense that this looks like it is being

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sped up because there may be some secret

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tech within this that's worth him

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finding out about in a kind of time of

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heightened tension

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or is that unfair

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no i think that's completely fair you

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know there's going to be all sorts of

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technologies behind the door in a second

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or these

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technology development places that could

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come in handy and an identified aerial

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phenomena or the research of could

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provide a good open door to revealing

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some of these technologies and maybe the

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crazier things that inspired them who

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knows so one one interesting thing from

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here as well on the in the language is

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on the name i know we've been waiting a

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while to know what this new entity is

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going to be called um it specifies that

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the term an

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aerial phenomena task force means the

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task force established under the

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department of defense announcement on

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august 4th 2020.

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that was the one that became aoi msg so

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it does look like the the successor

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office to the uaptf uh they're really

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pushing for it to be the uh the aoi msg

348
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and i'll always go back just on the

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whole you know the technology argument

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just to look at both sides chris mellon

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who is someone again propaganda that we

352
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we put a lot of faith in what he says in

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the work he's done in the past

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but he came out in an article and

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mentioned that these objects are clearly

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not russian or chinese particularly

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chinese when a chinese space rocket

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crashed

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in a rural providential area of of china

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and landed on like a piece of road

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basically and chris mellon made the

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point is clearly not these guys with

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this advanced technology because look

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the rockets are literally falling down

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on the land

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yet only a few weeks after that there

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was a hypersonic missile tested from

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china that went apparently around the

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globe very very quickly which

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allegedly the the us knew nothing about

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so on one hand you've got the the

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technology being deemed you know poor or

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not as good as they're making out and

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then on the other hand wow they have

375
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some really advanced stuff so it's

376
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always i think best to look at this with

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an open mind and an open you know

378
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it could be this it could be this and

379
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until you've got more data don't put all

380
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your eggs into one basket quite yet but

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um yeah it's again

382
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we've had this down period haven't we

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that we keep talking about now for a few

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months and and we'll saw the

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ramifications of that in terms of the

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the social media chatter and even even

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on reddit and in other platforms you can

388
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see the

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the clamor for ufo news isn't there like

390
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it was

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in in last year in may june july august

392
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i mean if you're a podcaster i'll be

393
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honest like you see the spike in numbers

394
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when the task force report came out and

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when when fox and cnn and nbc and good

396
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morning america and the australian news

397
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are picking it up in the german news you

398
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see the numbers reflect in people's

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podcasts and youtube channels and

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everything else

401
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and

402
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as the year went on

403
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probably after the jj abrams stuff came

404
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out and that kind of was the end of the

405
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crest of that wave and as things started

406
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to die down

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the

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passing interest

409
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tend to fade away from the subject

410
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because ah well there was no alien

411
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bodies no craft no pictures no videos

412
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and they're kind of waiting on that next

413
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wave to come up and i think what we're

414
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starting to see is the beginning of that

415
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next wave that next piece of momentum

416
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because as we go on we're going to get

417
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those first reports

418
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hopefully

419
00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:52,399
what we're going to get in the

420
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background there's going to be reports

421
00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:55,519
like you say though whether we see the

422
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reports or not or we see pieces of them

423
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or whether we get those leaks that we

424
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like to get

425
00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:03,040
we'll have to wait and see but i think

426
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hopefully we're at the start of that

427
00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:06,639
that news cycle coming back through and

428
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i again would love to see the

429
00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:10,320
particularly the us news picking this

430
00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,720
back up carrying that baton and then

431
00:15:16,629 --> 00:15:14,160
passing that on around the world that

432
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hopefully this time again the uk news

433
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picks up and you know the european news

434
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picks up and the african news picks up

435
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you want to see it go around the globe

436
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and people start to have those

437
00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:26,399
conversations and the general public

438
00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:28,399
can kind of stir up that that kind of

439
00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:29,759
passion again that we saw for it for

440
00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,839
like in a short period last year so that

441
00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:33,519
that excites me i'm looking forward to

442
00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:35,040
that um

443
00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:36,720
but yeah anything to add to that one

444
00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:37,519
then

445
00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:39,440
no just i completely agree with you the

446
00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:40,639
you know it's going to go up and down

447
00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:42,399
and up and down in terms of what news we

448
00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:44,079
get there is actual work to do so it's

449
00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:45,600
not like there's a big load of paperwork

450
00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:47,040
that they just chuck on the president's

451
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desk and go here you go here's

452
00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:49,920
everything um you know there are a

453
00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:51,680
number of things still going on in the

454
00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:53,839
background we've got the dod inspector

455
00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,199
general um report still due to come

456
00:16:01,350 --> 00:15:59,040
that'll be about their investigation of

457
00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:01,360
um handling uap issue and they're

458
00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:03,360
handling towards louis lozando as well

459
00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:04,880
with his credentials and deleting his

460
00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:07,040
emails and things like that they're both

461
00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:09,360
potentially big movers so keep an eye

462
00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:11,199
out for those we've got the legislation

463
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:12,720
going through which enables them to

464
00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:15,279
actually put the safeguards and tools in

465
00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:17,360
place to do this research properly and

466
00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:18,959
to actually be able to hold people to

467
00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:21,440
account for withholding that information

468
00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:23,040
so we're at the very start of the

469
00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:25,199
conversation here but it's the it's the

470
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:27,600
start of the kind of the official face

471
00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:29,600
of the conversation and i think this is

472
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:31,360
what lou is getting at when he says in

473
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interviews that if people are a little

474
00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:34,959
bit impatient they should go away for

475
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five years and come back because

476
00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:38,480
there'll be a lot more information

477
00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:40,240
you know on the on the table to read

478
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:41,920
through i think you experienced the same

479
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:44,160
thing as me where we're so

480
00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:46,000
we read about this all the time and

481
00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:47,440
we're always watching stuff to do with

482
00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:49,920
it and every time you learn a little bit

483
00:16:53,509 --> 00:16:52,160
more but then in six months you you

484
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:53,519
could have almost written a book with

485
00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:54,720
all the little bits that you learned

486
00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:56,880
over the previous six months and i think

487
00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,040
that that kind of

488
00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:01,680
mountain of stuff piling up is is what

489
00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:02,800
was getting out when he says you know

490
00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,240
come back in five years and there'll be

491
00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:06,319
so much stuff for you to go through that

492
00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:08,559
it'll only almost be too much you know

493
00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:10,480
100 and um

494
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:11,760
to segue into what we're going to talk

495
00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:12,959
about next we're going to tear through

496
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:14,640
some little little bits and pieces of

497
00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:17,280
news um one of the the twitter followers

498
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:19,760
a lyrical yule brenner asked us to cover

499
00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:21,839
a few different points and the first one

500
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:24,079
of those can uh it comes on the back of

501
00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:25,679
what we've just talked about though the

502
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:28,160
potential for uaf ufo sightings over

503
00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:30,400
ukraine and russia uh given they're now

504
00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:33,280
in unfortunately a war or if you're the

505
00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:34,880
russian military a special military

506
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:36,720
operation you know just

507
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:37,679
but

508
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:39,039
not to get political or talk about the

509
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:40,320
war and all that kind of stuff as well

510
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:42,000
as enough

511
00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:42,880
yeah

512
00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:44,559
there's enough going on in the world and

513
00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:46,080
other people hear this stuff on the news

514
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:47,520
and for some people this would be a bit

515
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:49,679
of an escape but we'll address the

516
00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:52,400
the ufo aspect of it what might affect

517
00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:54,559
what we've just talked about as the

518
00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:57,440
ongoing conflict with russia and ukraine

519
00:18:01,830 --> 00:18:00,080
because that is dominating the headlines

520
00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:01,840
because now what it's done is knock

521
00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:03,679
kovad onto the back burner which is

522
00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:04,480
still

523
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:10,320
the main story is ukraine russia so

524
00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:13,520
any ufo uap legislation that comes out

525
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,280
stateside

526
00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:17,600
and any bill it's a part of as well

527
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:19,120
there's all that military spending and

528
00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:20,640
everything else it's potentially going

529
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:23,120
to take a bit of a side seat to anything

530
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:24,160
else so

531
00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:25,919
we'll have to just wait and see but

532
00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:27,440
anyway as we were asked a few things to

533
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:29,440
cover as part of this breakdown was that

534
00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:32,000
potential for for sightings in ukraine

535
00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:34,400
and russia in a state of war in a state

536
00:18:38,789 --> 00:18:36,400
of heightened tensions what is going to

537
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:38,799
be above the skies in ukraine and over

538
00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:40,480
russia and a lot of other places right

539
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:42,799
now is probably a lot of that really

540
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:45,600
really advanced technology that does

541
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,720
have potential for for hypersonic speeds

542
00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,400
or you know

543
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:52,240
the the radar jamming what all those

544
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:53,440
different things i'm not going to go in

545
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:54,720
because someone will tear apart what i

546
00:18:57,990 --> 00:18:56,000
say and it's going to be wrong

547
00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:58,000
terminology wise but there's probably

548
00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:59,520
going to be a lot of those really cool

549
00:19:03,669 --> 00:19:01,600
advanced special drones

550
00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:03,679
kicking about and there's going to be a

551
00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:06,080
lot of mistaken sightings there's been a

552
00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:08,080
few videos and pictures and stuff put

553
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:09,840
online already hasn't they're done where

554
00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:12,240
people have went oh looks like a ufo

555
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,720
it could be but again i'm just very wary

556
00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:16,160
in a time where there's literally an

557
00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,400
active war situation there's going to be

558
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:20,320
a lot of stuff in the skies

559
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,039
yeah yeah 100 um i i think that you know

560
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:25,280
one one there's almost an opportunity if

561
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,400
people think they're being safe from

562
00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:28,240
elsewhere they might relax in terms of

563
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:29,600
defenses and things like that you know

564
00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:30,480
you never know what's going on

565
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:34,240
propaganda-wise and it's just good to

566
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:36,320
be very discerning at a time like this

567
00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:38,000
um especially when we got social media

568
00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:39,840
to spread stuff so quickly you know it's

569
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:40,559
uh

570
00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:42,160
well what's the saying that the ally can

571
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:43,520
get halfway around the world before the

572
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,120
truth gets its pants on um

573
00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:48,960
then yeah i'm seeing i've got a few

574
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:50,640
videos sent

575
00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:52,080
i think they they were like tick-tock

576
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,880
links uh to to me um

577
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:56,559
showing some advanced weaponry and

578
00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:59,039
things like that and again with a single

579
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,799
source you know we we have to kind of go

580
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:02,240
back to what sean cahill said but the

581
00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:03,600
single source is really hard to kind of

582
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:06,640
take these things at face value um and

583
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:08,240
there's a lot going on in this conflict

584
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:11,200
in a a huge loss of life that's tragic

585
00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:13,760
and it's just i don't know like i

586
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:15,600
usually don't mind kind of juggling the

587
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:18,400
maybe ufo videos but in a situation like

588
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:21,039
this i i tend to you know put them down

589
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,720
to just people exploring the situation

590
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:24,480
to get hits or views we already saw it

591
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:26,400
this week with third phase of the moon

592
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:28,080
uh putting out a tic-tac video that if

593
00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:29,600
you haven't seen it count yourself lucky

594
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:32,159
it was fake um but it took the internet

595
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:34,159
about 12 hours to figure that out and a

596
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:35,600
lot of people picked up around with it

597
00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:36,880
in that time

598
00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,799
yeah those videos you're getting people

599
00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:40,720
like you say exploiting the situation

600
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,320
with the different hashtags and if

601
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,840
you've got a ufo video you've made

602
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:45,760
yourself or just something that looks a

603
00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:47,200
little bit anomalous you can stick it

604
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:49,360
online with you know hashtag ufo hashtag

605
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,320
ufo sighting hashtag uap but now throw

606
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,799
in hashtag russia hashtag ukraine and it

607
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,640
has that exposure to a bigger audience

608
00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:58,159
as well and like you see it kind of

609
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,799
blows up online so um

610
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,640
if anyone wants to send over anything as

611
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,320
always i'm always happy to take a look

612
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,240
at it and forward it on if it looks good

613
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,080
or people want me to kind of send it to

614
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,080
other people to have a look at but i

615
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,000
would just tell people to be wary right

616
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:14,080
now and just have a look at the comments

617
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:15,760
normally underneath videos before you

618
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,600
jump in and start retweeting or sharing

619
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,919
and instagram storying it whatever you

620
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:21,440
do you know using the bibo and the

621
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,880
myspace as the kids do these days

622
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:25,679
um

623
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,240
and as part of that again a little yule

624
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,559
brunner that's really easy to say wanted

625
00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:32,640
us to touch on interventions potentially

626
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,080
around nuclear sites and and weapon

627
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:38,000
weaponry and i guess it's always a

628
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:39,520
really interesting conversation and one

629
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:41,440
that gets brought up daily especially

630
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:43,760
just now with a situation we're in um

631
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,080
where people will talk about

632
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:48,080
would the others would an advanced

633
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:49,360
civilization would the non-human

634
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,400
intelligence interfere during a nuclear

635
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,000
conflict and i've i've seen some

636
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,400
relatively well-known ufologists or ufo

637
00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,559
researchers um on facebook i think it

638
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,960
was having quite a chat about well if

639
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,640
they do launch nuclear weapons we don't

640
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:04,080
have to worry about it because we'll be

641
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:06,880
shot out of the sky by these these uaps

642
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,679
and

643
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:09,679
i'm a little bit like i don't see the

644
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,159
logic really behind that i get they can

645
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,080
apparently allegedly it looks like turn

646
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:16,159
them on and off at will they've kind of

647
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:17,520
messed about with these things at

648
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,240
various nuclear sites around the world

649
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:23,280
but they didn't stop hiroshima and they

650
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:26,159
didn't stop the fukushima plant blowing

651
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,440
up you know the issue that was there

652
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,000
they didn't stop chernobyl when those

653
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,799
renal levels were going off the chain so

654
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,960
there's nothing necessarily to say and

655
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:36,640
obviously i forgot to mention nagasaki

656
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,360
but

657
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:39,200
any other number of nuclear tests going

658
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:40,880
around the world

659
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:43,120
we don't hear that much about you know

660
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:45,039
them stopping them

661
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:47,120
but i saw a whole it was a potential

662
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,720
rabbit hole and i won't go too sideway

663
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,480
here but the other day where people were

664
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,240
talking about are a lot of these nuclear

665
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:54,880
tests in the upper atmosphere and under

666
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:57,600
the water to actually deliberately knock

667
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,080
some uaps out and you know it was quite

668
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:01,919
interesting but that's another story for

669
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,039
another time

670
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:04,960
but yeah for me there's not a whole lot

671
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,960
to confidently say ah yeah they can

672
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,240
launch the nooks it's fine they'll be

673
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,320
shot out the sky validatex

674
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,799
i don't necessarily think so we we've

675
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,039
got to remember that we we don't know

676
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,360
the visitors intentions and it's really

677
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,799
hard to read and anything that we do

678
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:21,039
read is it comes from a very human place

679
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,320
for us it's hard to think outside the

680
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:24,000
box because everyone's human and this is

681
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,640
always ever known um when it comes to

682
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,559
this stuff i tend to think that it's

683
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:30,400
kind of like parenting children you

684
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,000
don't you don't want to do the thing for

685
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,400
the kids you want the kids to understand

686
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,240
what they should do when you leave them

687
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,320
to themselves right yeah um you know

688
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,320
give them a sense of right or wrong

689
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:42,400
stopping hiroshima wouldn't have done

690
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,840
that you know you kind of need the

691
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:46,240
tragedy to see how utterly devastating

692
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:48,720
these weapons can be um and and i look

693
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,200
to someone like um stanislav petrov um

694
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:52,720
who was a lieutenant colonel in the

695
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,600
soviet uh defense forces um

696
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,360
and he played a key role in uh i think

697
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:59,279
it was in 1983 there was basically a

698
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:00,880
false alarm incident and he was the guy

699
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,279
with his finger at the button yes um and

700
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,840
he went against orders and did not

701
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:06,799
launch

702
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,440
and it speaks volumes about the ability

703
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:11,120
of one person to affect these huge

704
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,279
things and and i think we

705
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:15,120
we've won we've lost that idea we think

706
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:16,799
that you know one person can't affect

707
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:18,320
things and i mean look at the work of

708
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:20,799
luis elizondo one person he's affected

709
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:23,279
this conversation a lot um

710
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,039
and by by not pressing that button

711
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:27,679
stanislav really kind of went from

712
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:30,080
you know a serviceman to someone who in

713
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,440
his later years if you watch the

714
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:33,679
documentary the man who saved the world

715
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,360
he goes to america and he's shown one of

716
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:37,760
the minuteman ibm kind of silos that

717
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,240
sits there and he gets so angry

718
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:42,400
discussing it and and this was a guy who

719
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,320
was ready to put his life on the line

720
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,720
for his country and he's changed his

721
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,039
morals so much from that experience that

722
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:50,720
he just he hates the weapons and he

723
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,559
thinks they're ridiculous

724
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,960
that kind of change on a human scale

725
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,640
would be incredible for us and it would

726
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,320
be the harbinger of a new age of sharing

727
00:25:01,510 --> 00:25:00,240
technology and trusting each other and

728
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,520
you know we could reach for the stars

729
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,840
and waves we never have um i feel like

730
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:05,679
the visitors would want that instead of

731
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:07,360
to just keep babying us and going oh

732
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,559
yeah we're going to stop chernobyl for

733
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:10,080
you because yeah you know accidents

734
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,840
happen um

735
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,440
you know we've got to clean up our own

736
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,360
mess if you could give everyone that

737
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:17,200
astronaut experience you know they all

738
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:18,320
say when they go up here oh the

739
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:19,360
oversight

740
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:22,080
yeah yeah and they can just see wow

741
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,520
there's everything

742
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,440
there there's everyone who ever was and

743
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,679
ever will be just there

744
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,039
and it just changes them and if you

745
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,880
could give everyone that experience who

746
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:32,880
knows but unfortunately right now

747
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:35,120
there's around the world everywhere in

748
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,320
various different places different

749
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:38,000
conflicts going on unfortunately and

750
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,240
people are losing their lives and

751
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:42,320
not just men women and those little

752
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,760
children as well and again as a parent

753
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,760
that's horrible to see but um let's

754
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:47,520
let's go on with the uf it's definitely

755
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,960
one of those

756
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:50,640
it's one of these moments in history

757
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,400
that reminds you

758
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:54,480
that humanity isn't you know we always

759
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,240
talk about these kardashev scales and

760
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:58,559
you know we are in the fermi paradox and

761
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,120
you know how far along are we there

762
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,799
really there isn't one measurement for

763
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:04,720
humanity every country has its own level

764
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,320
of development every people has its own

765
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:08,960
level of development and even the term

766
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,200
i'm using development that's you know my

767
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,360
my goal isn't the correct goal it's

768
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:15,120
relative it's all relative to the life

769
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,400
that i've lived in the experience i've

770
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,880
had um and i i think the sooner we

771
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,880
appreciate the nuances of that over a

772
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:22,240
planet-wide

773
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:23,039
uh

774
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:24,640
area

775
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,320
well we'll just we'll get past these

776
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:28,400
kind of the what we refer to as the the

777
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,190
well someone who is is relatively

778
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:37,440
selfless if not controversial himself

779
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,159
online is uh joe margie ufo joe because

780
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,760
he does a lot of the great transcribing

781
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:43,520
we've talked about so again check out

782
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:46,480
the ufo joe folks because i i like jonah

783
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:47,840
like the work he does and i appreciate

784
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,200
it as someone who has to do a little bit

785
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:51,360
of research now and again for for a daft

786
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:54,159
podcast i do um and we were asked to

787
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:56,000
talk touch on jim sim evan jason

788
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,159
comments no if it's the comments i i

789
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:00,320
imagine it is um a couple of days ago

790
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,360
joe had tweeted these from jim semivan's

791
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,200
recent interview with stuart davis and

792
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,559
i'll just read you a couple of a couple

793
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,919
of paragraphs here folks so you know

794
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:10,080
what we're talking about

795
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,919
jim semivan said this

796
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:13,760
people have died you know over this

797
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,919
because the phenomenon isn't necessarily

798
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:17,840
all good there are terrible things that

799
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:19,120
happen to people who have these

800
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:20,720
experiences

801
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:22,320
i'm i'm talking about the hitchhiker

802
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,399
syndrome things along those lines it's

803
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,960
not you know i wouldn't say the majority

804
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:28,559
but there is a certain minority of

805
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,159
people that have extremely difficult

806
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:31,520
have an extremely difficult time with

807
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,760
this we met one in our group and it's

808
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:35,760
constant not that i'm saying there's any

809
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,640
kind of thing you have to fear i mean i

810
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:41,039
don't think this is existential

811
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:44,559
uh indisperable part here uh joe said um

812
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,000
we would be in really bad shape if it

813
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:48,640
was they do walk into this sometimes

814
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,120
particularly at skinwalker you walk into

815
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:52,480
this and you don't realize what you're

816
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,559
walking into and then this thing

817
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,279
attaches itself and it might not be evil

818
00:28:01,750 --> 00:27:59,360
it just might be completely agnostic or

819
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,760
apathetic or even

820
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,200
insistent

821
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:05,279
dan is that a i've never heard that one

822
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,080
before

823
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,679
uh i think i mean carry on i'll look it

824
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,360
up now go on

825
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,360
yeah i'll carry on and one actually

826
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,960
knows what it's doing but it doesn't

827
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:14,080
give a damn

828
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:15,840
so yeah some interesting comments from

829
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,159
jim simavon someone who himself has has

830
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,720
mentioned in the past as an experiencer

831
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,880
and is is still

832
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,720
along with his was his wife dan how and

833
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:26,720
his wife are both being studied by a

834
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:27,760
group

835
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:30,320
yeah yeah um so he's been very open very

836
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,919
vocal about those experiences which i

837
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,279
think daniel mentioned before we hit

838
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,120
record can be quite frustrating can't it

839
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,279
that there's someone who

840
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:41,600
that with that level of respect and

841
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,039
level of work and the people he works

842
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,840
with can just come out and say so much

843
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,520
and you just wish there was one person

844
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,360
like that that would come out and say

845
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,320
everything but nda's

846
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,320
private contracts work they do

847
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:56,720
confidentiality you know just good human

848
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:58,559
nature there's things they don't talk

849
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,760
about and

850
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,840
i get why that frustrates people but i

851
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,279
think it's um it's pretty interesting

852
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,840
jim semivan himself talking about

853
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,520
the idea that this this phenomenon

854
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:09,840
doesn't necessarily have to be all good

855
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:12,640
you know it's again like

856
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,919
getting better just like social

857
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:15,520
constructs man

858
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:16,799
yeah if you can't see me i did the

859
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,520
hippie uh yeah hit me up in a sarcastic

860
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:21,200
way but it's true you know everything's

861
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:22,960
relative i was trying to think on the

862
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,120
top of my head about a similar similar

863
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,159
example and animal testing of medicines

864
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:30,000
and products is horrible

865
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,159
but there have been benefits to to

866
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:34,080
certain aspects of humanity

867
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:35,679
would the person doing the testing

868
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:38,000
necessarily be classed as evil

869
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,600
doing what they're doing

870
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,200
potentially not but they're doing

871
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:43,120
something pretty horrible to a life form

872
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,559
a creature that doesn't deserve to have

873
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,559
what it's done to them

874
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,000
there's the potential that some of these

875
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,600
experiences you know this this um

876
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,960
what's the word the

877
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:55,120
this aspect of the phenomenon the

878
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,919
playing about with us joker

879
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:59,600
trickster that's the word yeah the

880
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,760
trickster aspect to the phenomenon is a

881
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:03,600
higher intelligence just messing about

882
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,559
with us

883
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,480
and when you look at for example the

884
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:08,480
injuries thomas winterton and others

885
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,000
have suffered from

886
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:11,840
if those are or like

887
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,240
calm keller mentioning the cancers that

888
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:15,919
people have got and people have passed

889
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,399
away from it's just potentially a side

890
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:20,080
effect to something they're not meaning

891
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,200
to do it but

892
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:23,200
it's if it happens it happens

893
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,159
and you don't know that it's just

894
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,320
another intelligence alongside whether

895
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,000
it's alongside us or above us whatever

896
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:30,159
you want to say

897
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:31,520
is

898
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,960
harmful effects

899
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:37,200
so it's it's interesting again to talk

900
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,399
about that and i think it's only common

901
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:40,799
sense that this this is where i i don't

902
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,600
necessarily believe or buy into the idea

903
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:45,679
that there are some people who claim all

904
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,840
these beings are loving light and

905
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,279
they're so nice and they're here to

906
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,360
protect us and have the best you know

907
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:53,520
the best intentions for us but then on

908
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,880
the on the other side you've got people

909
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:56,399
who they're all demons and demonic

910
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:57,519
they're all evil we shouldn't get

911
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,320
involved with it i very much keep myself

912
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:02,080
in the middle of that and it's it's

913
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,480
probably fair with our limited human

914
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,919
understanding that there's a little bit

915
00:31:09,770 --> 00:31:08,320
of both involved in that

916
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:09,780
yeah definitely um

917
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:12,159
[Music]

918
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,399
well firstly so insusion yes totally

919
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,320
would uh showing a casual lack of

920
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,000
concern so for anyone listening this is

921
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:20,080
our today i learned our new word okay go

922
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:21,600
go use it in a sentence to someone and

923
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,880
blow their minds

924
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:24,559
so what was it was uh

925
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:27,200
in insufficience showing a casual lack

926
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,279
of concern so it would be summing up

927
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,960
everything you've just said basically

928
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:32,640
you know like when i when i give you a

929
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:33,840
deadline to work towards something

930
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:35,919
you're insistent about it and it ends up

931
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,720
late

932
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:38,720
yeah you could say that

933
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:39,519
okay

934
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,039
nicely done i'll give you describe on

935
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:43,039
points yeah thanks

936
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,919
um yeah yeah we just don't know about

937
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,200
whether something is malevolent or

938
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:49,120
beloved or even understands those

939
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,880
concepts you know they might just be an

940
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:53,200
inherently human thing you look at

941
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,480
insects and we wonder whether they have

942
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,919
a sense of right or wrong or anything

943
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,080
like that and the truth is we don't know

944
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,399
they might um it's it's hard to argue

945
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,799
either way um about the will of

946
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,480
something else that we can't experience

947
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,440
it's life um but i know certainly

948
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:09,679
humanity is in a moment right now where

949
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,830
kind of

950
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,679
unintentional

951
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:19,519
effects on our environment and the

952
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,960
environment you know

953
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:22,240
all around the world um

954
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:23,519
[Music]

955
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:25,039
we're experiencing that we we've done a

956
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:26,320
bunch of things that have led to some

957
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,240
very negative things for us that were

958
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:30,080
completely unintentional and some people

959
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:31,840
knew sure but

960
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,519
you know we're all we have to live in it

961
00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:34,880
and deal with it anyway was it

962
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,799
malevolent benevolent it's not really

963
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:38,080
going to help us to figure that out

964
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:38,960
right

965
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,720
100 and that's why whenever i hear

966
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:42,320
people talking about you know we're on

967
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,320
the verge of a huge paradigm shift as a

968
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:47,039
species i just can't see that given like

969
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,559
you said and the the relative

970
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:51,200
development of of nations and cultures

971
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:52,880
and people's thinking even within their

972
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,679
own cultures how different people are

973
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,840
yeah that's that's just not happening

974
00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,519
anytime soon that

975
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,519
there's going to be a global awakening i

976
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,120
mean something might happen that we all

977
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:05,279
have to experience but i don't think

978
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:06,480
that's that we're all going to ascend to

979
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,000
a new dimension and higher state of

980
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,559
consciousness that's just

981
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,559
not not on the horizon i don't know how

982
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,600
to do it so it's safe to say if it

983
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:15,679
happens you're not coming then

984
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:16,960
probably not i'll still be here

985
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:19,120
podcasting about it and how disappointed

986
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:20,480
i am everyone's gone looking for a new

987
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,399
co-host

988
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,000
so yeah i mean that's nice of you to say

989
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,320
that i would go i'll do a show from over

990
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,399
there why not yeah over there or down

991
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,480
there either one yeah um

992
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,240
so below that's what we'll call it yeah

993
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,679
we were asked to touch on a tear in the

994
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,919
sky um italianasky.com

995
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:37,760
is the website for the new documentary

996
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,919
that is part of a uapx looks very well

997
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:41,760
produced there's no trailer yet and

998
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,120
there's not much to cover on that one we

999
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:45,519
talked about it on the last breakdown um

1000
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:47,039
it's there's no updates yet but again

1001
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,640
i'll i'll have garyvee back on the

1002
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,320
podcast if he's i'm sure he wants to

1003
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,080
come back on i'll speak to gary and to

1004
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:54,720
discuss that as and when the time comes

1005
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,360
um we were also asked to cover nope

1006
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,360
which is the new movie coming out from

1007
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,279
jordan peele we won't go into too much

1008
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:02,880
movie chat here folks but so very

1009
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,440
excited yeah very very excited for this

1010
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:07,679
one yeah this this looks like it's going

1011
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:10,399
to be a horror type movie

1012
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,399
yeah where the the

1013
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:14,159
antagonist is

1014
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,520
some sort of

1015
00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:17,760
ufo essentially and from what you see in

1016
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,599
the trailer it's about

1017
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,960
mashed up at the moment there's and it

1018
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:22,960
gives you flashes there's what looks

1019
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:24,879
like some grays running about you know a

1020
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,440
potential virginia-esque um incident

1021
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:30,240
going on but um it's got the the silence

1022
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,320
in the area before the ufo approaches

1023
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,800
it's got all the animals going quiet

1024
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,720
um it looks it looks really interesting

1025
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:38,320
so i'm looking forward to seeing it well

1026
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,760
what i love about the trailer is that

1027
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:41,359
it's given us so little that we can't

1028
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:43,280
define what it the other thing in the

1029
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:44,720
trailer the anomalous thing so we've

1030
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,520
just got to call it a ufo you know

1031
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:49,280
he jordan peterson is definitely gonna

1032
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:52,000
play with that in the film um and i love

1033
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:53,119
his movies because he plays with

1034
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,879
expectation every single one almost

1035
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,960
feels like

1036
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,800
there are two or three films wrapped up

1037
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,480
and depending on

1038
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:02,079
the reasons you're watching it whether

1039
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,680
it's to kind of you know study the

1040
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,359
racial relations and the what they're

1041
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,960
speaking about or what he's speaking

1042
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:08,000
about there or whether you're just

1043
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,520
watching it for entertainment there's a

1044
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:11,599
whole bunch of levels going on um and

1045
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:14,320
i'm excited to see what he uses the idea

1046
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:17,200
of the other four in that regard

1047
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,560
yeah and we'll put the links to the

1048
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,320
trailer in the description same with the

1049
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,320
link to the ten in the sky website and

1050
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:24,480
the george knapp article as well just a

1051
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:26,320
heads up on the george knapp article

1052
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:28,960
it's uh unfortunately region locked to

1053
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,359
the us so you'll have to use you know

1054
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:33,839
other means to to look at that proton

1055
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,320
vpn is a nice legal free means um you

1056
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,560
can download it on the ios app store or

1057
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,400
android app store it's just a free vpn

1058
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,560
just uh yeah download it connect to the

1059
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:45,680
usa uh option and you'll be able to just

1060
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:48,320
enter that uh news eight news now link

1061
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:49,359
and read it

1062
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,240
awesome um chase also asked us to cover

1063
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:54,720
uh on twitter the recent idea that lou

1064
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,320
showed a select group of podcasters uh

1065
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:01,200
classified videos etc and look we're not

1066
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:03,680
going to go into that whole ufo twitter

1067
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,839
controversy from last week people saw

1068
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:07,359
enough of that it was quite embarrassing

1069
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:10,480
to be honest um but essentially there

1070
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:12,079
was a rumor going about that louis

1071
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:15,520
elizondo had shown a group um like some

1072
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,800
some borderline what classified material

1073
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,640
it turned into i think dan your word was

1074
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:22,880
like a game of telephone yeah

1075
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:25,599
and it was what was one thing turned out

1076
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,880
to be something to be something totally

1077
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:28,480
different and

1078
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:30,240
a whole lot of people in the middle of

1079
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:30,880
it

1080
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,520
unfortunately that sort of stuff that

1081
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:36,480
happens

1082
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,839
when

1083
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,760
people are desperate for for content

1084
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,359
folks i won't put out interviews for the

1085
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,960
sake of doing interviews

1086
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:44,320
if there's if there's no one there to

1087
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:46,320
interview which in this game that always

1088
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,760
is and if you're doing it right there

1089
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,920
should be but also like these breakdowns

1090
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:51,200
we won't just do them when there's

1091
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,800
nothing to talk about there just

1092
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,480
wouldn't be one that week

1093
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,480
and for whatever happened a whole lot of

1094
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,320
controversy again it's get stormed up

1095
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,560
names get thrown about accusations got

1096
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,160
made and it

1097
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,400
blew up online and you'll probably

1098
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:06,160
notice like dan and myself stay out of

1099
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,680
those conversations we don't really get

1100
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:10,079
involved we don't like and retweet and

1101
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:12,090
comment and stuff like that um

1102
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:13,119
[Music]

1103
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,800
it's just again it happened last year

1104
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:16,800
when we went to london and and lou came

1105
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:18,880
to meet us for lunch we were in a really

1106
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,079
busy busy little bar restaurant that lou

1107
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,240
wasn't sitting with a laptop or a gaming

1108
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,320
projector showing us classified

1109
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,320
briefings that he's had you know

1110
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:30,160
there was literally people at the tables

1111
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:32,079
all around us well while we were

1112
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:33,920
chatting so

1113
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:35,599
that that this is again i think what

1114
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:37,359
sort of happened dan did you even hear

1115
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:40,640
anything more about this is to yeah so

1116
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,920
it was interesting because i i know

1117
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:43,599
where it started and i know what it's

1118
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:45,760
become and the rumors come back to me

1119
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,359
with some more details and i'm just like

1120
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,040
that is not true you know as someone

1121
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,880
that knows how this rumor started that

1122
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:53,040
this is a game of telephone

1123
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,480
what happened was basically luke showed

1124
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,320
us an article on the sun website that

1125
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,320
contained a video that video was spoken

1126
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,400
about and assumed by a bunch of people

1127
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:02,320
to be like this super secret video it

1128
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,760
wasn't it was on the sun website it's up

1129
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,359
on youtube um

1130
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:07,520
lou gave a disclosure team of comments

1131
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,960
on it uh disclosure team did an

1132
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,640
interview with a guy who filmed it so

1133
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,280
there's nothing secret here at all but

1134
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:15,040
for some reason some people felt that

1135
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,640
they had to kind of

1136
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,720
say that and and start causing waves in

1137
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,800
the community for for some likes or

1138
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,320
something like that but that's that's as

1139
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,160
far as i'll go it's just nonsense

1140
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:25,920
basically well we'll include the link to

1141
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:28,560
the video for you here just to show that

1142
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:30,839
it's really nothing classified

1143
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:33,200
yeah a few people asked in the discord

1144
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,720
chat and on twitter and stuff do you

1145
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,720
guys know much more about this and was

1146
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,160
her stuff being being shown in the

1147
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,839
background you know if there was it

1148
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:41,359
certainly wasn't to us and it sounds

1149
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,560
like it's just become a whole lot of

1150
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,320
nothing so that's all there really is to

1151
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,000
say about it and it's just disappointing

1152
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,400
we stay out the drama folks like i've

1153
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:50,400
got enough to do in a day-to-day basis

1154
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,680
without getting involved in that kind of

1155
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,040
stuff and there are a lot of great

1156
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,960
people doing a lot of great work online

1157
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,880
a lot of great tweeting blogging you

1158
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,880
know podcasting youtubing all that kind

1159
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,800
of stuff without without the need for

1160
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,240
the nonsense it can go along with it

1161
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,880
it's a fascinating subject so

1162
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:06,560
you don't need the drama to be a part of

1163
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,440
it

1164
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,920
people think that this isn't crazy

1165
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:11,440
enough so like you know yeah

1166
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,880
extraterrestrials visits no it's not

1167
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,880
interesting enough for you exactly

1168
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:16,800
exactly so so yeah it seems to have come

1169
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:19,040
and gone which is which is for the best

1170
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,000
um

1171
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:21,440
last couple of bits to touch on then

1172
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:24,560
folks uh dan wanted to apologize it says

1173
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,359
here for for panicking people is that

1174
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:29,520
what it says about the show length yeah

1175
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,000
um we we hear you loud and clear a lot

1176
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:33,680
of people go back home in touch many of

1177
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:36,000
them very passionately um just saying

1178
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:37,599
don't change the show length a lot of

1179
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:38,800
people will watch 20 minutes and then

1180
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,839
just back just to clear up this wasn't i

1181
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,520
was going to change the show length dan

1182
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,520
threw this out on a recording and it was

1183
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,520
more from a point of view of should they

1184
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,000
cut down the videos to to shorter

1185
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:52,000
lengths so if i record like an hour or

1186
00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:53,839
an hour and a half interview

1187
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,839
should he release them in smaller chunks

1188
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,599
and people almost unanimously were like

1189
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,599
nope nope nope that's that's what he was

1190
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,040
looking at in terms of analytics and

1191
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,640
algorithms

1192
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:03,920
off the back of that though what we're

1193
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:06,720
doing now is the the monthly recap

1194
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:09,520
if there comes a point where i have more

1195
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,560
time i could do weekly shorter versions

1196
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:14,079
of the interviews and then longer form

1197
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:15,119
as well

1198
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:16,400
i don't have the time for that sort of

1199
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:18,800
work just now but what i can do is start

1200
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:21,280
to do monthly recaps where i've released

1201
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,200
a section of each interview to give

1202
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,599
people a little taster as to interviews

1203
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,880
they may have missed or not wanted to

1204
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:28,800
listen to or not been sure of give you a

1205
00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:30,079
little glimpse of what was in it and

1206
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,520
then you can go back and listen to if

1207
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,599
you want that's what the recaps are are

1208
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,680
going to be for as well so but yeah that

1209
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,680
was all it was folks so it was um just

1210
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:39,040
looking at the analytics and how people

1211
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:41,040
might digest our their content we're

1212
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,000
always trying to kind of keep it

1213
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:44,880
relative for everyone as well um and

1214
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:46,720
yeah and kind of finishing up folks

1215
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,839
couple of announcements um you can of

1216
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,760
course uh support the podcast via

1217
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:53,760
patreon.com forward slash that ufo

1218
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,400
podcast or if you're on the youtube more

1219
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:58,240
often than not click on youtube you'll

1220
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:00,240
have a join option and again it's like

1221
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,079
the price of a coffee to join up and

1222
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,560
support the podcast via youtube and you

1223
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,720
get early access to interviews ad free

1224
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:08,720
viewing all that kind of good stuff just

1225
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:10,640
in a visual format as opposed to what

1226
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:12,640
you would get as part of spotify if you

1227
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:15,119
search that ufo podcast premium and same

1228
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,720
on the apple link as well you get a two

1229
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:18,640
week free trial with early access and ad

1230
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:21,119
free listening to um you also get access

1231
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,720
to the discord chat so just drop us a

1232
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:24,640
message if you need into that but again

1233
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,760
it's part of those kind of paid

1234
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:27,839
subscriptions as a little something back

1235
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:30,960
and a thank you folks um anything you'd

1236
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,440
like to see us record content wise

1237
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,280
please let us know we've got a whole

1238
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:38,240
list of ideas coming up for shows and it

1239
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:39,680
has probably taken us longer than

1240
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:41,440
expected with with dan being away and

1241
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,119
coming back and myself having the tech

1242
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:45,119
issues to get back in our rhythm and

1243
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,800
flow with everything but what we've got

1244
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,960
there now i think and uh

1245
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,480
we're getting those shows that's our

1246
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:52,000
band name if we ever start performing at

1247
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,680
conferences we're the mum flowers it's

1248
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,280
like rhythm and flowy that's a good name

1249
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:57,119
for our band um

1250
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,079
we also will be recording the tom delong

1251
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,560
part three in the next week hopefully

1252
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:04,960
i've not said that to dan yet but that's

1253
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,000
2.5 with listener feedback from part two

1254
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,000
yes a few people had sent stuff over

1255
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:12,880
there will be a 2.5 as well if you have

1256
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,119
listened to the tom delonge part 2 and

1257
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,960
want to send over any comments any

1258
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,640
thoughts or any questions for us to

1259
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:21,200
answer please feel free and even if it

1260
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,640
was something that part three is going

1261
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,880
to cover dan where did we leave off was

1262
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:26,319
i think i think we were basically just

1263
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:27,839
going to start getting into that core

1264
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,800
story about the beliefs that tom holds

1265
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:32,480
about the phenomena and just talking

1266
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:34,240
about them a bit a bit more in depth

1267
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:35,599
because there was a lot of them and they

1268
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,480
were pretty controversial um atlantis

1269
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,880
atlantis

1270
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,400
yeah so we're going to be talking about

1271
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,319
those so anything at all you want a

1272
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,359
message send it over to ufo uapam

1273
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,680
gmail.com or tweet it or whatever and

1274
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:50,880
i'll put it together but those will be

1275
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,240
getting recorded soon um guest wise i've

1276
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,079
got hopefully i'm still waiting on a

1277
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,880
date but chris rutkowski whose book um

1278
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,960
canada's ufo's declassified is coming

1279
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:02,720
out at the end of march and he'll be

1280
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,880
doing interviews then for that

1281
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:06,720
i've had i'll just announce it now i

1282
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,200
don't mind um shane ryan who was part of

1283
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:11,599
ross cool tarts documentary um in

1284
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,880
australia

1285
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,800
who done a lot of investigating and

1286
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,200
reporting on the westall school incident

1287
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:18,560
is going to be coming on the podcast

1288
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:19,520
that's something i've been trying to

1289
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,040
arrange for quite a while

1290
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,119
very excited to speak to shane and he's

1291
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,520
looking forward to coming on so early

1292
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:27,119
days if you have any interest in

1293
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:29,599
australian ufos or the westall instinct

1294
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,560
particularly email ufo uapam gmail.com

1295
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:36,480
with their questions for shane but we'll

1296
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:38,000
be covering the westall incident and

1297
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,440
some other bits and pieces within the

1298
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,359
interview very much looking forward to

1299
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:43,839
it i've also got to mention just in case

1300
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:45,920
you hadn't seen the interview with louie

1301
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:48,800
elizondo has been moved to april 23rd

1302
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:51,280
essentially i was happy to move it to be

1303
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:52,319
out the

1304
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,920
lose media run at the minute he's doing

1305
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:55,040
a lot of great interviews and we'll

1306
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,079
we'll tell you about one of those in

1307
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,000
just a second that's coming up tonight

1308
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,160
um or last night or last week whenever

1309
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,400
you listen to this um but i can get a

1310
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,800
little bit longer with lou if i wait and

1311
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:05,839
that's why i'm going to wait till the

1312
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:07,520
23rd of april it benefits you it

1313
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,200
benefits me it makes for a better

1314
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:10,960
interview and i'll i'd happily wait the

1315
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,319
extra time anyway on that louis lozando

1316
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,640
and sean cahill are both on theories of

1317
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,079
everything with cut dry mungo this

1318
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,240
evening and very much looking forward to

1319
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,599
that i don't think it's unfair to say

1320
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,000
then given this will go afterwards uh we

1321
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,160
have had a little look at the questions

1322
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,319
shall we just say and we've got an idea

1323
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,400
of what's coming up folks and i can

1324
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,480
promise you there there shouldn't be a

1325
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,800
whole lot of old ground being covered

1326
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,480
and remember kurt's got a very different

1327
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,160
audience to as a much bigger audience as

1328
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,160
well maybe a bit more mainstream a bit

1329
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,560
more science based um so there will be

1330
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,040
some stuff kind of covered but there's a

1331
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:46,960
lot of really decent questions in there

1332
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:49,200
i can guarantee you that which hopefully

1333
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,800
gets some really good answers from both

1334
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,680
lou and sean sean's very very underrated

1335
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,839
when it comes to interviews and and what

1336
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:57,599
he talks about and how he talks about it

1337
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,960
as well

1338
00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:59,839
and

1339
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,079
absolutely um i i just wanted to add in

1340
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,520
there that

1341
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:05,359
because andy's just explained or you've

1342
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:06,319
just explained i should say i was

1343
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:09,680
talking to the audience then um that

1344
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:11,119
you've got an interview coming up with

1345
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,319
lou

1346
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:14,400
if something isn't asked in the theories

1347
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,440
of everything

1348
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,839
interview piggyback off it let us know

1349
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,240
what you want us to pick up on and and

1350
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:22,160
you know a lot of us podcasters talk

1351
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,359
behind the scenes and none of us like

1352
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,760
repeating things so help us help you and

1353
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,119
and tell us what you'd like to see

1354
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covered and we'll we'll try our best 100

1355
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,160
and also before the end of march we want

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00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,240
to record another ama you might have

1357
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,319
seen on the free feed yesterday i

1358
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:38,640
dropped our first ever ama we recorded

1359
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:41,680
almost um about one year ago um slight

1360
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,880
audio

1361
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:44,560
crackle on my side folks but it's not

1362
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:46,079
too bad just that was an issue at the

1363
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:48,079
time but there's loads of those recorded

1364
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,599
that are over on the patreon and apple

1365
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,800
and i know you might hate all that oh

1366
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,720
paying for stuff but it's just a little

1367
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,560
bit of something back for those who do

1368
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,160
choose to support the podcast in that

1369
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,760
way and it's on there for free if you

1370
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:59,599
like it sign up to any of the podcast

1371
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,560
streams

1372
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,400
and you can access those sorts of shows

1373
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,839
but if you want to get involved in the

1374
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:05,359
ama

1375
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:08,319
again tweet us instagram email

1376
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,680
email ufo uap am gmail.com as always and

1377
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:13,040
we'll get those in there as well any

1378
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,960
questions for myself and dan and we'll

1379
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,480
we'll chat through quite casually and

1380
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,319
answer those it's always a kind of fun

1381
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,640
time definitely um i spoke with vinnie

1382
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,480
as well and we're gonna be

1383
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,000
phenomenology the documentary from

1384
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,359
colombia uh comes basically may 1st so

1385
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,960
at the end of april we're going to try

1386
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:31,200
and do the ama for colombia and we'll be

1387
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,400
presenting all the videos we kind of

1388
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,560
took while we were out there not kind of

1389
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,400
you know spoiling the documentary but

1390
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:38,319
giving you guys a sense of what we did

1391
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:39,599
out there what you can expect from the

1392
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:42,560
documentary um that comes out just a few

1393
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,440
days later i think that'll be

1394
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:45,119
interesting andy'll be with us asking us

1395
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,720
questions and kind of providing the

1396
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,240
audience voice and and holding our feet

1397
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,240
to the fire as well so i'm excited for

1398
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,119
that one 100 dan should be worried uh

1399
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,960
and the last one you might have seen the

1400
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:56,720
live listener calling is going to be on

1401
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:59,440
saturday the 26th of march that's at 10

1402
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:00,800
pm uk

1403
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:02,480
if we're right though because of the

1404
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,599
clock's changing and dan that means it's

1405
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:07,119
going to be

1406
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,160
i mean 10 it's still 10 pm uk 10 p.m uk

1407
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,400
later yeah

1408
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,800
but it's going to be 3 p.m pacific and 6

1409
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,079
p.m

1410
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,560
that's the ones yeah um 55 percent of

1411
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,640
the audience is us-based so there you go

1412
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,559
important 70 percent of statistics are

1413
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,480
made up on the spot is that one yeah

1414
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,760
that one's a lie

1415
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:27,760
but yeah so there you go folks yeah

1416
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,079
that'll be on there the 26th of march um

1417
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:32,000
live listener calling would be great if

1418
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,599
people get involved and come on we'll

1419
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,520
there'll be a link you can join us talk

1420
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,440
to us answer a question get off and let

1421
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,440
someone else come on um but people have

1422
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:41,599
already started sending me over i say

1423
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,400
people i've got two um voicemails that

1424
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,240
they won't make the live show but they

1425
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,000
want us to play their call it can be a

1426
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:50,000
video or it can be audio based we'll

1427
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,920
play it on the live and dan and i will

1428
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:53,760
answer it on there for you so if you

1429
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,000
want to do that email it over tweet us

1430
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,760
get in touch if you're not too sure but

1431
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:59,200
it'd be great to have as many people

1432
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,599
involved with that as possible

1433
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,800
done

1434
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,720
good little break down there good recap

1435
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,559
it's kind of got me up to speed with

1436
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,640
where everything is no no james webb

1437
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,960
update this time because the mirrors are

1438
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,040
still aligning so it's still up there

1439
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,040
a good a good example of no update

1440
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:16,960
because nothing much has happened

1441
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:17,680
yeah

1442
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:19,280
but by seeing that you've kind of

1443
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,920
updated everyone so yeah true very short

1444
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:23,839
update but that's it but yeah listen

1445
00:48:27,549 --> 00:48:25,119
folks thank you very much for listening

1446
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:27,559
thanks for checking out uh on monday the

1447
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,640
14th of march you will see the daniel

1448
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,119
otis interview journalist and writer his

1449
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,200
article invites.com is really good on

1450
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:37,920
the 20 years declassified ufo documents

1451
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:40,000
check out um really interesting to hear

1452
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,160
a journalist's perspective diving into

1453
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,160
this topic and even daniel as you'll

1454
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:46,160
hear is still trying to find out where

1455
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:48,079
that line is how far can he go how far

1456
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:49,440
can he discuss

1457
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,200
keeping things reputable but also

1458
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:53,359
relevant to the conversation as well so

1459
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:55,760
very interesting one that one um i i was

1460
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,400
with dan i i love his work um obviously

1461
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,800
i love his name as well um but i i

1462
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:02,559
didn't have a good read on you know

1463
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:04,720
where that line was for him and and how

1464
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:07,200
much of a skeptic versus debunker versus

1465
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,480
you know that kind of scale um and and

1466
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,640
yeah i think he he's an asset after that

1467
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:14,079
interview and he's a really intriguing

1468
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:15,119
guy and i'm going to be following his

1469
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:16,400
work and i'm excited for everyone to

1470
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:17,280
listen

1471
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,800
definitely again folks thank you for

1472
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,400
listening and we'll speak soon that is

1473
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,400
all for this week's show thank you very

1474
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,480
much for listening please remember to

1475
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:26,319
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1476
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,520
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1477
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,359
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1478
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,520
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1479
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,839
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1480
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:37,839
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1484
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:47,680
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1485
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,000
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1486
00:49:55,180 --> 00:49:52,079
and again folks as always keep looking

1487
00:50:15,589 --> 00:49:55,190
up you never know what you might see

1488
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:22,240
is

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[Music]

1490
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,710
i can't imagine how it could have been

1491
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:34,319
any better i got to the top of the

1492
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:54,710
and everything was weird and everything

1493
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,800
was red i helped my boys they thought

1494
00:51:01,300 --> 00:50:58,160
this was noise they thought it was a

1495
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:10,540
[Music]

1496
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,020
and what's that

1497
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:35,750
[Music]

1498
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consider your lies

1499
00:52:03,220 --> 00:51:54,810
[Music]

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00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:03,230
it wasn't

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[Music]